Getting New Dirt

[REID429]

Is there anyway that money can be raised for Waco eagles to get new dirt or like sandy loam out there. Maybe charge to ride on weekends or something. I wouldn't mind paying at all to help this out.

[TripleCrown]

Do you even realize how much dirt that would take? Membership fees would have to be $500+ per month to cover the cost. On top of the cost, it would be a waste. The black dirt will eventually work it's way back to the top and the wind would blow the sandy dirt away. Sandy loam gets just as dry and dusty as the black dirt and it even compacts just like the black dirt.

If you want to donate the dirt, I'm sure the club would let you. They might even give you a free lifetime membership in return.

[twoplus]

In the past we have discussed bringing in sandy loam, we even tried a truck load. Can you find where it was put at? The pic in triplecrown's post, the four wheeler is directly over the section. I have heard both arguements for leaving it with the black dirt and adding wood chips and sandy loam. The truth is we dont have the members that will devote the time to prep the track. It is very exhausting and will burn those members out that attempt it. It takes a lot of man hours to complete the task of just prepping for race day. I have to congradulate our current officers and their families for their time and effort, they are doing a great job with what they have. I have been in their shoes and your whole saturday is shot if you want to make a decent attempt for a presentable track on sunday.

[Blazing MX]

twoplus said:

I have to congradulate our current officers and their families for their time and effort, they are doing a great job with what they have. I have been in their shoes and your whole saturday is shot if you want to make a decent attempt for a presentable track on sunday.

First of all welcome to the forum Mr Don!
For the past year & a half I've made Waco Eagles my home from Friday night thru Sunday. There were times during the summer that there were three of us putting water on the track from noon Saturday until 4am Sunday. It's no wonder my motos sucked, I was still asleep.

It does take a lot of time and effort to prep the track and very few members pitch in to help. Not complaining, just stating the facts. I usually start the week before the races by coming out after dark and doing most of the dirt work. I sometimes work till 1 or 2 in the morning but have been there as late as 3am. I get up at 6 to go to work, get home about 5:30. Doesn't take long to wear you out. Friday nights I get to the track and try to finish the dirt work. Saturday morning while everyone is practicing I smooth out the pits and parking, empty the trash barrels and what ever else I can do without getting run over by a motorcycle. About noon I take to the track on the blue tractor and smooth out the prior weeks dirt work then start watering about 2. Watering is an art. Anyone can scrape dirt but you have to be able to read the ground to know how much water it needs. When I have help watering (not to offend here) it takes a lot more than what gets put down to do any good come Sunday morning. To just wet the ground does nothing. The water has to be liberal enough to penetrate the top layer and then needs to be done again. I often water a 2nd time after everyone leaves and still have had months where the track was too dry.

Bottom line is that there used to be a lot of members show up on Saturday and help get ready for the races, the last few months that number has dwindled to a very small group consisting of 2 or 3 family members. I invested about 35 hours last week to prepare for Sundays race. Without support from our other members it takes more than just a Saturday to get er done.

Thanks for commentiing on the track conditions, I take it as a compliment ;D

[twoplus]

Thanks Jeff, I know the work it takes to do what you have been doing. Just figured I wanted to get a little more background on the track prep and time it takes. All those that help you deserve to be recognized for what you do.

[Blazing MX]

twoplus said:

Thanks Jeff, I know the work it takes to do what you have been doing. Just figured I wanted to get a little more background on the track prep and time it takes.

I know you know what it takes, I've seen your hiney out there at all hours of the day & night doing the same thing not too long ago.

Thank you too my friend, in case I've never said so.

[worcs]

we had 60 yrd's at one time and it blow's a way when you ride it. was not tiled in.allso 20 was on the start 'and first turn

[cody15]

Well now that I got this computer,and I cant make the meetings this is the only way for me to put in my two cents.You want more riders and new members,99% of the troops at FT Hood with bikes in the back of their pickups don,t even know you are there,or what you have to offer.An ad in the Ft Hood sential a couple times a year might make a differance.---NEXT Start a program that every fifty class rider is free---no entry fee--and give every one of them a little medalion and don.t just try this once or twice you have two build this program from the bottom.---Your able to get mom and dad at the gate and at the same time give them an entry form with a invatation to join the club. You have enough members that go to other tracks and all they have to do is start telling the parents of fifty riders we dont charge anything.

[Blazing MX]

cody15 said:

NEXT Start a program that every fifty class rider is free---no entry fee--and give every one of them a little medalion and don.t just try this once or twice you have two build this program from the bottom.---Your able to get mom and dad at the gate and at the same time give them an entry form with a invatation to join the club. You have enough members that go to other tracks and all they have to do is start telling the parents of fifty riders we dont charge anything.

We have been doing this for the 50 beginners for several months

[cody15]

I took the time to send in a suggestion----consisting of two parts----neither of them getting any more attention than a flippent responce. If your going to answere it at least put some thought in it. For a few brief moments I was with the understanding that this was a club,and that all the members had one vote in it's operation----Now if this is true, than their should be a way on this web site for all dues paying members to cast a vote on the major topics--(example)----Do we as a club want a flat track----Or do we want a night supercross track or both.---Thees things need full membership attention and not by just a few that make the meetings and eat pizza.----Now if we don't get any type of vote than tell the rest of us to just sit back,keep your mouth shut and pay your dues.------If you respond to this .do it in a complete manor,Ill bet Im not the only one looking for the some answers.

[Blazing MX]

cody15 said:

I took the time to send in a suggestion----consisting of two parts----neither of them getting any more attention than a flippent responce. If your going to answere it at least put some thought in it. For a few brief moments I was with the understanding that this was a club,and that all the members had one vote in it's operation----Now if this is true, than their should be a way on this web site for all dues paying members to cast a vote on the major topics--(example)----Do we as a club want a flat track----Or do we want a night supercross track or both.---Thees things need full membership attention and not by just a few that make the meetings and eat pizza.----Now if we don't get any type of vote than tell the rest of us to just sit back,keep your mouth shut and pay your dues.------If you respond to this .do it in a complete manor,Ill bet Im not the only one looking for the some answers.

Take the time to read and understand the club constitution. When you do that you may have a better understanding of what our club mission is, how we are governed, and what the rules of the club are.

I'll address some of your statements from your previous post in hopes that you will find satisfaction that I have read it entirely. I simply replied to that of which I thought worthy.

cody15 said:

Well now that I got this computer,and I cant make the meetings this is the only way for me to put in my two cents.

It's great that you got a computer. This forum is an excellent means for our members & non-members to keep in touch with what's going on at Waco Eagles. We love to hear your suggestions and comments and we take every one of them into consideration. If you would like to have an idea or suggestion formally addressed, and can not attend a meeting, I recommend that you send a message with someone that will bring it up at one of our meetings, however the club constitution states that in order to vote on a topic that you must be present at the meetings. I know that it is difficult for some members to attend but this is a rule that is strictly enforced within our constitution.

cody15 said:

You want more riders and new members,99% of the troops at FT Hood with bikes in the back of their pickups don,t even know you are there,or what you have to offer.An ad in the Ft Hood sential a couple times a year might make a differance.

The last two years running Waco Eagles has more members than we've had in our 73 year history. Motocross race attendance is also up drastically over the past two years with the exception of the small bike riders. Currently memberships are up approximately 750% over just a short 5 or 6 years ago. If we feel the need to recruit more new members then I think your idea would be a good place to start.

cody15 said:

NEXT Start a program that every fifty class rider is free---no entry fee--and give every one of them a little medalion and don.t just try this once or twice you have two build this program from the bottom.---Your able to get mom and dad at the gate and at the same time give them an entry form with a invatation to join the club. You have enough members that go to other tracks and all they have to do is start telling the parents of fifty riders we dont charge anything.

As I stated in my 1st response to you, we are already promoting the 50cc class. We also have scheduled in March a display at the Walmart in Hewitt, the week before the start of the mini series. We will have several young riders in full race gear with bikes on display at the entrance of the Walmart handing out promos and a free pass to the races along with some other goodies.


Now to address your current post's comments.

cody15 said:

I took the time to send in a suggestion----consisting of two parts----neither of them getting any more attention than a flippent responce. If your going to answere it at least put some thought in it.

If you meant Flippant, I was not aware that

blazingmx said:

We have been doing this for the 50 beginners for several months

was a smart aleck response, and I assure you that I put a lot of thought in my posts.

cody15 said:

For a few brief moments I was with the understanding that this was a club,and that all the members had one vote in it's operation----

You are correct, each member has the right to a vote. The exception would be for officer elections, where voting is limited to a single vote per membership, as to not sway the voting. Since a single membership entitles an entire family club privileges, members with large families have the potential to cast more votes than a membership with only one person in a household.

cody15 said:

Now if this is true, than their should be a way on this web site for all dues paying members to cast a vote on the major topics--(example)----Do we as a club want a flat track----Or do we want a night supercross track or both.---Thees things need full membership attention and not by just a few that make the meetings and eat pizza.----

You are incorrect and this is why I suggest that you look at the constitution. You must be present to vote. The club meets at a location that is easily accessible to members and meetings don't commence until 7pm. I suggest that if you can find the time to make it to the track , you can find the time to make it to the meeting. It's all a matter of priority.
If your example regarding the SX, NT, FT, etc. is an actual concern to you, I'll fill you in by letting you know that all these topics have been addressed by the club at several of our meetings. Since you don't attend the meetings you probably had no idea. If we were to build another track, especially a night track, there are many considerations. A big consideration is the cost, not only of acquiring the lights, but operating them. I have ask that anyone with the ability to come up with the numbers to present to the club, which is the 1st step, to come forward. So far no one has offered. If you would like to step up, I'll be glad to present your findings to the club at the next meeting and we can go to step two, logistics.

cody15 said:

----Now if we don't get any type of vote than tell the rest of us to just sit back,keep your mouth shut and pay your dues.-----

I think I have covered this but in case you didn't understand, I'll say again. In order to vote you must attend the meeting. If you don't wish to attend then you can chose to do as you described.

cody15 said:

If you respond to this .do it in a complete manor,Ill bet Im not the only one looking for the some answers.

I was not aware that you had asked any questions for me to answer. After rereading I still don't see any questions, can you clarify if I'm missing something please?

Jeff

[cyclepop]

Well said Prez! You are truly a politician, I wish I could be so articulate and polite when responding to foolhardy posts. ;D

[TripleCrown]

Dang!

[crf26]

daaaaaaaaaaam!!!!