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Post by Blazing MX on Nov 19, 2006 19:38:45 GMT -6
Poppa Rollos Pizza. Must be a current member to vote and present to vote. One vote per membership
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Post by rhymes326 on Nov 20, 2006 19:01:25 GMT -6
One Question.... How come you have to be present to vote? Has anyone ever heard of absentee ballots? The reason that I bring this up is: A) Some people live a good hour and a half away and its hard to make it up there on a Wednesday that far away in the evening, and B) Craig Bogardus might be coming home from IRAQ on that evening, and I am going to be there. I think that every member has a right to vote. Besides, isn't that one of the great benefits of this wonderful Country that myself, Craig Bogardus, and other soldiers are out there fighting for??? I think that it kinda sucks that I won't be able to vote for the President, treasurer, or secretary of WEMC because I couldn't make an hour and a half drive in the middle of the week. Just a thought....
By the way, Since I am kind of on the subject... It is really starting to bother me how some people, during the National Anthem on Race Day, don't even bother to be quiet, stand up, or act appropriately. If you don't think that the national anthem is important, than shame on you. But atleast, give the people around you the courtesy by being quiet, standing up, and standing still. It really annoys me that people don't understand the daily sacrifice that our soldiers our giving. If you don't know, then let me know and I will take you on a tour of the hospital here on Ft Hood and I will introduce you to a couple of my friends that came home a little early from Iraq and are lucky to be alive. Maybe then you act appropriately during the National Anthem.
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Post by worcs on Nov 20, 2006 20:13:46 GMT -6
JEFF ?
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Post by HyperFX on Nov 20, 2006 20:28:29 GMT -6
One Question.... How come you have to be present to vote? Has anyone ever heard of absentee ballots? The reason that I bring this up is: A) Some people live a good hour and a half away and its hard to make it up there on a Wednesday that far away in the evening, and B) Craig Bogardus might be coming home from IRAQ on that evening, and I am going to be there. I think that every member has a right to vote. Besides, isn't that one of the great benefits of this wonderful Country that myself, Craig Bogardus, and other soldiers are out there fighting for??? I think that it kinda sucks that I won't be able to vote for the President, treasurer, or secretary of WEMC because I couldn't make an hour and a half drive in the middle of the week. Just a thought.... By the way, Since I am kind of on the subject... It is really starting to bother me how some people, during the National Anthem on Race Day, don't even bother to be quiet, stand up, or act appropriately. If you don't think that the national anthem is important, than shame on you. But atleast, give the people around you the courtesy by being quiet, standing up, and standing still. It really annoys me that people don't understand the daily sacrifice that our soldiers our giving. If you don't know, then let me know and I will take you on a tour of the hospital here on Ft Hood and I will introduce you to a couple of my friends that came home a little early from Iraq and are lucky to be alive. Maybe then you act appropriately during the National Anthem. That's the greatest thing about this country; they have the right to do that. You were there for them and the decent US citizens as well. Gotta love it!
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Post by cyclepop on Nov 20, 2006 20:34:07 GMT -6
Have to agree Jeff, we are going to try to make the trip, but it is unlikely, with the gas bill for Canton this week to finish the series. It would be nice to vote absentee?? Sounds like a job for Jeanine!! Ha Ha Jeanine!! As for the national anthem deal, agree with that too. It was amazing how many of those folks were grown ups and teens!! From experience a little war time will make you treasure what you got and the country you live in, folks should be grateful they do not have to experience it to have the freedom they have!
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Post by Blazing MX on Nov 20, 2006 22:46:30 GMT -6
One Question.... How come you have to be present to vote? Has anyone ever heard of absentee ballots? The reason that I bring this up is: A) Some people live a good hour and a half away and its hard to make it up there on a Wednesday that far away in the evening, and B) Craig Bogardus might be coming home from IRAQ on that evening, and I am going to be there. I think that every member has a right to vote. Besides, isn't that one of the great benefits of this wonderful Country that myself, Craig Bogardus, and other soldiers are out there fighting for??? I think that it kinda sucks that I won't be able to vote for the President, treasurer, or secretary of WEMC because I couldn't make an hour and a half drive in the middle of the week. Just a thought.... Have to agree Jeff, we are going to try to make the trip, but it is unlikely, with the gas bill for Canton this week to finish the series. It would be nice to vote absentee?? Sounds like a job for Jeanine!! Ha Ha Jeanine!! Okay guys, I'll answer this the best way I can, like a politician. I'll lay the blame on someone else. ;D I'll be serious for a moment. When our club was founded there were 2 documents written. One is the Club Constitution and the other is our Club By-Laws. The constitution may be amended under special session as outlined in the constitution, however we abide by it as is currently written, interpreting the best we can. Below are 4 of the Articles from the Constitution
Article 1 Waco Eagles Motorcycle Club members are to include motorcycle riders, persons actively connected with the motorcycle trade and motorcycle enthusiasts. Honorary members shall be any other person as the club may decide by a two-thirds vote, of those present, at any regular club meeting. Only members in attendance and in good standing will be entitled to vote on club affairs and each family membership shall only be entitled to one vote.
Article 3 Regular meetings of the club are to be held on the last Tuesday of each month and a record of "minutes" will be kept of each meeting. Any elected official may call a special meeting by posting written notice on the Waco Eagles Motorcycle Club track bulletin board and or the Internet Website at least four days in advance.
Article 4 Officers will be elected from the membership body. The official nominated officers for the club are president, vice president, vice president of membership, secretary, treasurer, road captain, referee, and 5 executive committee members. The term of each office will be one year with the exception of executive committee members. Executive Committee members will serve a two-year term. The afore mentioned officers will be nominated each year by the club membership at a regularly scheduled meeting during the month of October and elected by majority vote by club membership at a regularly scheduled meeting during the month of November. The elected officers will take office on January 1st following the election. Executive committee officers will be elected on a biannual basis and will be elected in such a manner as to cause no more than three executive committee officers to be elected each year. More than three Executive Committee members may be elected if there is a need to fill a vacant position or other unforeseen need. Any current or previously elected officer may be nominated and elected, or reelected, to serve multiple terms in the same office or any other office in which nominated and elected. Only club members in good standing and in attendance will be entitled to vote.
Article 14 A member who wishes to run for club office shall attend a minimum of 6 meetings per year, participate in the organization or operation of a minimum 6 races per year, and work a minimum of 6 days for the club each year. The prospective member shall live within a thirty-five mile radius from Waco and be a current two-year member of the club .
Though I sympathize with your comments, please realize that these are our established set of rules and the guidelines we must follow. Waco Eagles, as with any other private corporation, (which we are) are bound to follow our adopted set of rules. Since we are a private entity we are not bound to recognize rights or privileges that are not expressly outlined in our policies.
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Post by Blazing MX on Nov 20, 2006 22:49:42 GMT -6
One Question.... How come you have to be present to vote? Has anyone ever heard of absentee ballots? The reason that I bring this up is: A) Some people live a good hour and a half away and its hard to make it up there on a Wednesday BTW, Club meetings are always on the last Tuesday of the month
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Post by crf26 on Nov 28, 2006 22:24:29 GMT -6
wow what a meeting,there was alot of people there that we never ever see all year long until voting time,there should be something done about that,thats crap!It was real nice that the 2 year membership deal was dug up hmm.thats ok dont really care anyways,bagger racing will rebound..by the way tim and I are going to switch bikes next race and i'm riding VET B look out yellow bike guess we will see how fast you really are on that 450!!
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Post by Blazing MX on Nov 29, 2006 3:29:44 GMT -6
It was disappointing for me to overhear some of the comments this evening after the meeting. One thing everyone must understand is that we are governed by a piece of paper that can not, and will never cover every scenario that we are bound to face. All we can do is interpret the best we can and adapt where needed. I believe that it is the intent of the document that says much more than the written word. As a business owner myself, I know first hand that the methods sometimes must be flexible in order to achieve the overall objective. Our objective tonight was to elect officers and we got it done. The club voted to accept the method and that is simply the way it is. When all the objectives have been met, they combine and we have reached our goal. I will quote a cliche from a friend "Don't major on the minors.” I often ask myself why it is that some people seem to get so worked up over situations that more often than not do not change the outcome or end results. Ask yourself why does Waco Eagles even exist? We are here to provide a facility that we each can enjoy and that is our goal. That goal should be set in concrete and unwavering yet our methods to achieve each objective must be flexible if we are to overcome any situation that may prevent us from obtaining our goal. I find it amazing that we have members that will volunteer their time and talents to fix a tractor, pick up tires that snakes live in, clean the restrooms, and most anything else you can think of. I also find it amazing that other members won’t even bother to pick up a trash can that has been knocked over or empty one that is overflowing. I probably spend more time working at the track instead of riding than anyone else, and that’s my choice, so I see more of what goes on within our club. Most people, including many officers have no idea just how much other members do for the club, and the funny part is that the ones that go that extra mile will never let you know. Is it because they don’t expect the gratification? Mostly. Each one of us makes up Waco Eagles and we are what we are. It saddens me to know that there can be turmoil from within when there need not be. Each nominee tonight has a quality that the club would benefit. Each nominee is also greatly appreciated and it is my sincerest hopes that you will not be discouraged by the outcome of the elections. A few of our younger members tonight asked me why we didn’t just let the people that wanted to help do it. I had to wonder if maybe our youth is the only ones that really get it. In other news. I’d like to thank Chip Munn of KTM of Texas for helping out with the food tonight. Let him know that we appreciate his generosity, he asked for nothing in return. Give him a visit and say thanks when you get the chance. 254-875-9955 or munnracing.com There will however be a change next year in the free pizza department. Pizza will be provided at the October meeting when we have nominations and NOT the November meeting when we have elections.
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Post by bpoteet4 on Nov 29, 2006 6:29:46 GMT -6
It was disappointing for me to overhear some of the comments this evening after the meeting. One thing everyone must understand is that we are governed by a piece of paper that can not, and will never cover every scenario that we are bound to face. All we can do is interpret the best we can and adapt where needed. I believe that it is the intent of the document that says much more than the written word. ......... The club voted to accept the method and that is simply the way it is. Jeff, Please do not take my comments offensively. I feel that I must get this off my chest - so I can go on. You don't have to worry that I will interfere with any club business from this point on -- I've been to my last club meeting, I've worked my last race, I've cleaned my last restroom. I feel that the constitution was pulled out to merely and obviously keep Tim and Kurt from being elected to the e-board. There was a huge turnout of members who do not usually come to the meetings, do not come to the monthly motocross races -- I do acknowledge that they probably do come to the track twice a year to the flat track, so I don't really want to push that issue and turn this into a flat track vs. motocross issue. I had more the feeling of the old time members vs. the newcomers. Here's my point - if the club is going to follow the constitution, let's also follow the rest of it - or change it if we aren't going to follow it. There is a requirement - that you read last night - that each officer work a minimum of 6 days for the track. Don't think I've seen one particular e-board member lift a finger at all? Does Ross' work as treasurer count for his 6 days? I could go for an exemption for Glenn - flat track only happens twice a year, but he does the majority of the work. Wouldn't you consider his dues paid? What about the rest of the officers? ( There's no question as far as your contribution goes! You live there! ;D) My point is - if you are going to use the consitution to disqualify members from running for office, let's go the extra step and please enforce the requirements for holding office. Brenda
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Post by twoplus on Nov 29, 2006 10:53:26 GMT -6
I tend to agree with the idea of why can't someone that wants to help, to give them the chance. When I started out with the club a few years back, I was the Secretary after only being with the club 10 months. At the time, our meetings had a less than stellar turn out. The first two rows in front of the TV at Papa Rollo's have remained the same since I have been with the club. I attended two meetings (Sept and Oct) before leaving for Iraq for a second time. I think that we can improve on the WEMC's articles to not "exclude" those that want to what's best for the club.
Many of the members I do not know by face. I do know the Poteet's by name, for when I would post the results on the web page I recognize the name. Tim and Kurt, I hope that the both of you still have the fire in the belly to help with club functions and run again in '07. I hope to be back by then, and would like to see the both of you as part of the WEMC officers.
It doesn't take long to burn out an officer, working at the track and prepping it for a race or any other tasks performed for WEMC. Even as a member that wants to help, you quickly find out who is doing it for themselves or the club. I applaud Jeff, he has done an outstanding job. As far as what Glenn has done for the club, it cannot be measured. Glenn doesn't ask for anything, he definitely puts in his 6 days a year. If you would like to see, I'm sure he could use the help when he starts to prep for flat track races. He has also helped several times with the motocross.
I agree that officers should be doing their part. Officers that cannot fulfill the obligation (which they should know before becoming an officer) not for the position they hold, but for the other "duties" that are requested of them.
Don Parker Suzuki #2+
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Post by cyclepop on Nov 29, 2006 12:37:49 GMT -6
So what was the outcome of the elections and nominations?? I looked for the meeting notes, cant find them
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Post by tcollier on Nov 29, 2006 12:54:03 GMT -6
Bagger Racing got black balled....something about club rules & regulations. That's okay though, we'll be back next year!! That gives us a full year to campaign...You know kissing babies, letting people win, that sort of stuff. ;D I'll allow Curt to win a few races early, but when it gets close to voting time, I'll hold him back, make him talk nice to everyone...you know....suck up!! Anyone interested in donating to the Bagger Racing election fund, can contact us at any race. Just look for a big red trailer with a lot of hot air coming out of it!! Thanks for your support!
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Post by Blazing MX on Nov 29, 2006 14:41:37 GMT -6
So what was the outcome of the elections and nominations?? I looked for the meeting notes, cant find them Sorry, I posted it on the web page but not here [ftp]http://www.wacoeaglesmc.com/officers.html[/ftp]
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Post by crf26 on Nov 29, 2006 21:04:08 GMT -6
everybody dont worry about tim and I WE WILL NEVER QUIT WACO!!there is ALOT I could talk about from last night but I wont!brenda said it and said it well!!!looks like some of those twice a year members need to come out and clean bathrooms,run the window at the mx races ect....
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